Muslim Sheikh Fibbin Ibn Farooq is still spreading lies to get Christians to join Islam. Imagine, in the first few seconds of a video, he’s already lying. I watched the video and destroyed every argument he brings up. Look at this:

(Fibbin’s quotes are red)

“So what do you think, man?”

“One God, you believe that?”

“For sure.”

“That God sends prophets to guide us, you believe that?”

“Yeah.”

“You’re Muslim, bro. What are you waiting for?”

“Ahhh, I don’t know about that.”

Ibn Farooq Uses Misleading Arguments

This is a big lie many Muslims have been telling for years. I was at Speaker’s Corner a few weeks back and had a very brief chat with one of the main guys, Mansur. He was using the same worn-out argument on an older woman.

Believing in one God and believing He sends prophets does not mean you are a Muslim. Not in any sense of how the majority of the world understands it anyway. Muslims who use this argument are committing a logical fallacy.

Christians believe in one God and that he sends prophets.

Wow. I’m a Christian.

There are loads of people who believe in one God, and prophets, that doesn’t make them Christian, Muslim, or any other false religion for that matter. What makes you anything is the distinctions. I talked about this when I covered Andrew Tate’s dumb reason for leaving Christianity.

You cannot be a Muslim if you do not accept Muhammad as a prophet, the same way you cannot be Christian if you don’t accept Jesus as your saviour.

Deception in Broad Daylight

Ibn Farooq is bold-faced lying to deceive people into his religion, and he’s doing this in front of his son too.

“What about Islam is holding you back?”

“You already believe in one God, we believe in one God. You don’t believe God’s an animal, or a statue, or a man, or a woman, right?

We don’t believe that, right? You don’t believe that God is seven, or three, or five, or four, you believe he’s only one?”

“Yeah?”

“Yes.”

“Okay. We believe that God sent prophets to guide us, like Abraham, Moses, Jesus. They were guides for us. Does that make sense?”

“Yes.”

“That’s it, bro, that’s the basics of the Muslim belief.”

Christians Believe Similarly

Imagine the deception that’s happening. Let me act out a role play. I’ll take the sheik’s place and promote Christianity, the same way he was.

“Hey man! You should be a Christian. Christians believe in one God and he sends prophets, don’t you? He sent prophets in the past like Noah, Isaiah, David.

You believe there were prophets sent by God, right? You don’t believe God is an animal or a stone or something silly like that, do you?

You see, be a Christian. This is the basics of our belief. And we both believe the same thing.”

“Ah, I don’t know about that, man.

What does CHRIST-ian mean?“

“Errrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.”. 🙂 😛 😀 

The Basics of Christianity and Islam

Imagine I convince someone like this, post it to the world, but leave Jesus out of the basics of my religion.

Imagine, this liar is trying to deceive Christians into Islam. He said these are the basics of his religion and never mentioned Muhammad once. It’s almost like he knows what people are going to say. So after saying what he just said was the basics of Islam, look at what he says next.

“To testify that there’s only one God that should be worshipped, to testify that Muhammad is a messenger and servant.

We don’t say he’s God, he’s a messenger of God, like Jesus and Abraham and Moses, peace be upon them.

We love them all, they were all wonderful, we think they were great prophets of God, but we don’t worship them.”

The Problem with Lies

He asked before, “What’s your problem with Islam? And what’s holding you back?” A big reason is how Muslim sheikhs like this. They lie with such ease and people promote them for it. This is why people started saying, “Without lies, Islam dies.”

“What’s holding you back, bro?”

“That’s it. When you become Muslim, that’s all you do.

You say, I testify that there is none worthy of worship except one God and I testify that Muhammad is a servant and messenger of God.”

Totally different to the basic message he shared earlier.

Christian Beliefs

Now the conversation switches to the Christian belief.

“So what do you believe?”

“I believe that Jesus Christ died for my sins.”

“Okay.”

“I believe that, uh, he is the son of God.”

“Is he God or the son of God?”

“Both. Son of God.”

“So he’s son and father both?”

“Yeah.”

Logical Fallacies

This question (“Is he God or the son of God?“) is a logical fallacy, a false dichotomy. He tries to pit one against the other.

But in the Jewish context, to be the son is to share the same nature. Jesus shares the same nature as the Father, meaning he is God. But he also smuggled in another logical fallacy: he begged the question.

He assumed his belief is true before proving it when he asked, “So he’s son and father both?” His assumption is that God is only the Father.

Jesus isn’t Son and Father both. No trained Trinitarian believes that. The main either misspoke, is not a Trinitarian, or needs some more training. But without his built-in assumption that God is only the Father, this question is irrelevant.

Getting into the Bible

But now that all this is out of the way, the moment we’ve all been waiting for, he now is ready to get into the Bible.

“Do you believe in the Bible?”

[He nods]

“Okay, I got a Bible, right? So let me…”

[Uthman’s friend] “He has a very colourful Bible.”

“I like to read, you know, so, uh, in the Bible in John 17:3, it says this is eternal life that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.

So Jesus, according to the Bible, says that you’re the only true God above and you sent the only true God sent Jesus. So do you believe that?”

“Yes.”

“So you believe that God… Jesus is not the only true God, because the only true God sent Jesus.”

The Father sent the Son. Every Christian would say yes. He thinks Christians have never heard this, or run away from this passage. This is one of the greatest passages in John’s writings to show you Jesus is God.

But again, he makes a logical fallacy. He’s begging the question again. He wants to emphasize the difference between the only true God and Jesus. His thinking is, if I highlight the distinction, this means they cannot be the same, equal, or one in any way.

John 17:3 Actually Buries Ibn Farooq’s Argument

John is not bound to the Sheikh’s beliefs. Making a distinction is not a problem for John at all. He literally begins his Gospel, making a distinction between God and the Word, but says they are both God.

But even the very verse, John 17:3, John distinguishes eternal life from Jesus, but John says Jesus is eternal life in his other writings.

Look at what John writes in 1 John 1:1-2:

“That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the word of life.

For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and show unto you that eternal life, which was with the father, and was manifested unto us.”

Jesus is distinguished from eternal life by John and also called eternal life by John. This destroys his whole argument. But John does the same thing with the one true God too.

Some like to claim John was saying the Father was the only true God and no one else, but that isn’t what John said. The Father is the only true God. Every other God is false. But John believed Jesus is the true God too. This is one of the reasons the Trinity is true.

Like John did with eternal life and Jesus, he does the same with the only true God. John distinguishes Jesus from one true God, then calls him the true God in his other writings as well.

I showed you how he started 1 John. Look at how he finishes 1 John. In 1 John 5:20, it says…

“And we know that the Son of God is come and has given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.”

John says Christ is the true God and eternal life. There is no reason to make a big deal about John 17:3 unless you don’t know the Bible and in that case, you’re exposing yourself.

But given Fibbin Ibn’s track record, I wouldn’t put it past him knowing this but still using these tired arguments.

John 1:1

This Christian takes Fibbin Ibn Farooq to John 1:1.

“So, chapter, John chapter 1 verse 1.”

“Okay, excellent.”

“In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.”

“Okay. Alright. So, I know where you’re going to go, right? But do you know what the Greek here is?”

“What is the Greek?”

“Logos.”

hahahahhaha… 😛 😛 😛 

He doesn’t know Greek, and the Greek doesn’t change anything. It makes it more emphatic that the Word is God. Again, reading through all John’s writings over and over, he speaks about the Word as personal.

Uthman Ibn Farooq tries to play the card that the Greek word for word “Logos” gets used in other ways. Christians never said it isn’t, but context matters.

Open any serious commentary on John and they say John uses “Logos” when referring to Jesus in a different way. He thinks he did something by appealing to Greek, but he didn’t. But now he moves to the next argument:

“When we talk about God. Do you believe God knows everything?”

“I do.”

“Alright. When you go to Mark 13:32:

‘But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.’

So if God knows everything and Jesus didn’t know the hour, then wouldn’t you agree that Jesus isn’t God?”

Misinterpretation of Mark 13:32

Muslims love to bring up Mark 13:32. Let me read it and then talk after.

“But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.”

When you read the surrounding verses, you can see what Jesus is doing. He’s not removing his knowledge or lying. He’s claiming Sonship, and doing something far greater. Jesus is calling Himself the Son of God.

Muslims don’t accept that, so it’s strange he would even quote this verse. But Jesus gives the people specific signs about what will happen at His return, His return to gather his bride, the church.

He explains in much detail, but then He stops all of a sudden and says, no one knows the hour, not the angels, not the Son, but only the Father.

Jesus was doing something the Jews understood.

The Jewish Tradition

It was the Jewish custom during a wedding, for the groom to go to his father’s house and build an extension. This would be where the newlyweds would live.

This is why Jesus said in John’s Gospel, He goes to prepare a place for us. There are many rooms for us. He’s building the extension, so to speak. Once the extension gets built, the tradition was the father of the groom would declare it’s time to go and get the bride. Now is the time to bring her home.

This wasn’t because the son, the groom didn’t know it was time, but it was custom, the respect and honor given to the father to make the announcement.

When Jesus said this, He was showing He was the Son of God, and the Jewish listener would understand this well. Muslims like the sheikh, either don’t know the background, or ignore it to look good against people like this.

Fibbin Ibn Farooq got busted again.

Now you understand it well knowing the Jewish tradition.

Jesus Didn’t Know?

Ibn Faroo jumps right to an interpretation of lacking knowledge, but the Bible uses the word “know” in different contexts.

In Genesis 4, “know” gets used as a euphemism for intimate relations in a marriage.

In 1 Corinthians 2:2, “know” gets used in the context of priorities. It’s clear Jesus is using the word “know” in Mark 13 as announcing the news. It’s the honor and glory of the Father to say when the Son will return for his bride…out of respect, not lacking knowledge.

Also, in John’s Gospel, in chapter 16, the disciples say Jesus knows all things. And a few chapters later, in John 21, Peter says Jesus knows all things. This further proves “know” in Mark is being used in a different way.

When you take into account the wedding custom tradition, it all makes sense. Jesus’ point is, I can tell you all the stuff that’s happening around it, but it’s the honor of my Father to say the word. He’s proving he’s the Son.

Jesus didn’t lie. He knew, but was talking about something Jewish people listening would know and get (no pun intended).

And this is why you have to be careful when people like Fibbin Ibn come around. They need to stop lying.

It’s like the lie many Muslims say about Jesus. That got destroyed in another post. God bless.

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